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October 12, 2012 at 10:09 am #67977
Relax arya_raj4u. You will not loose your job. As it is not a gross misconduct.October 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm #74777
Have you seen the link below? https://askwb.com/topic/supression-of-fact-about-the-present-employment/October 13, 2012 at 9:03 am #74778
I read all that were given in the following link, but the problem will keep peeping up in my mind as has been mentioned by the last post on SUPPRESSION OF FACTS dated 26th august ,2012 13:38, by user donyi_polo . the point as mentioned in 4th para that if somebody proactively or even unconsciously brings that to the notice of the future employer (which in this case is the bank), then shall i be booked for SUPPRESSION OF FACTS? and in that case can I be terminated from that job? is what makes me ponder a lot..? b’coz at that time my undertaking statement would come into account as “the above stated facts and informations are true to the best of my knowledge and belief, and that I shall be responsible for any misconduct and hence cancellation of candidatureship/termination from job without prior notice or any compensation in lieu thereof”. what should I do then? plz advice.October 14, 2012 at 10:57 am #74790
You may concentrate more on the comments made by adil85 and A. Ray on the 25th Sept.
See the link.
https://askwb.com/topic/supression-of-fact-about-the-present-employment/October 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm #74797
I did not get the point of verification of antecedent roles. where exactly am I supposed to come across it? In the new job application that I want to take up in future? or is this some sort of formality that I am supposed to go thru after getting selected for the new job and prior to joining the same? Is the police going to come to my residence and ask or rather verify my antecedents from me or from my neighbors? What if I have not mentioned in the new job application that I was employed but before leaving the previous job I had tendered a proper resignation letter and obtain proper release letter and discharge certificate from my previous employer? Even then can I be prosecuted, because I am released only after my previous employer accepts my resignation and has no objection about me getting dissociated from my previous job? won’t the release letter and the discharge certificate suffice then? whats wrong if I was employed? I was not happy with the vista I was enjoying there? Is there anything wrong about opting for better opportunities? I am for sure not intended to carry forward the benefit of the previous job that I was doing; Neither am I going to enjoy any beneficiaries from my previous job and nor I am going to hold 2 gov’t positions from where I can draw salary.! So where exactly is the harm in hiding that I was employed even after my previous employer has released me prior taking up the new job. It is only with his consent that I am able to dissociate myself. This is what I am finding difficult to put my logic in! plz help and advice……! and plz tell what are the ways for seeking respite by going legal in this matter? I am very much in a distraughted cast of mind. on one hand I have a lucrative offer of a life time to choose, and a dark future to risk. what should I do? plz plz advice.October 15, 2012 at 6:33 am #74798
Police Verification Report (PVR) on character and antecedent in respect of an incumbent is obtained by the new employer before issuance of offer of appointment to the Gazetted posts (in case of Central Govt. Services) or Group-A posts (in case of State Govt. Services)(?) (Members from State Govt. Services may elaborate). It’s an official procedure.
It’s clear that you have been repeatedly suppressing the facts, even at the time of submission of resignation letter where you have not mentioned the original ground of resignation.
Everything depends on the service rules of previous and present employments. Present employer would have the vital role as the employee is under his control once he is relieved of the previous employment. The whole matter is confined in a triangular system (closed system) where previous employer, present employer and you occupy the three vertices. A service lawyer may give some additional input in this affair – a way out!October 15, 2012 at 1:54 pm #74808
Police Verification Report (PVR) on character and antecedent in respect of an incumbent is obtained by the new employer before issuance of offer of appointment to the Gazetted posts (in case of Central Govt. Services) or Group-A posts (in case of State Govt. Services)(?) (Members from State Govt. Services may elaborate).
In case of State Services, it is mandatory for all posts irrespective of its group status.
Regards.October 15, 2012 at 6:43 pm #74813
It’s not that I have a habit of suppressing facts, but the matter is that it is very difficult to approach each time I go for applying for a job and I have to obtain the NOC, and that’s b’coz the previous employer was reluctant to give that, given the fact that he understood that I was not going to take my previous job as a long term career option, as i was seeking better opportunities with different organizations. now, I had obtained NOC twice before that for 2 separate Govt. jobs; and for these two jobs, I have got offers from both of them, however they carry a less monetary reward as compared to the one that I am concerned about (the one for which I didn’t obtain a NOC, neither did I divulge the secret to the new employer). so, there is no question of taking the guilt quotient on to me, as I thought that I would be applying as a fresher. the fact that remains to bother me is whether this is too gross a misconduct to condone and can that cost me my job five years down the lane, when I will have neither the age nor the energy to outperform the competitors. Then I shall be rendered job less for the rest of my life, as well they might bar me from taking any competitive exams for such misconduct, and on the top of that they can ask me to repay back all the money that I got as salary. and where exactly do I get a SERVICE LAWYER?October 16, 2012 at 3:30 am #74815
Sorry friend, you could not get me properly. I never said it’s your habitual practice. In fact, I pointed out when and where you have suppressed the fact of applying to outside department. What do you mention as the ground of resignation in resignation letter if you do not give prior intimation to / forward application through your office for other employments?
There may be some limitations in the no. of applications in a year, forwarded through proper channel for the outside posts. For example, permission for applying through proper channel three or four times in a year. Was there any such bar in your previous service!
Let bygones be bygones! I think it’s now wise to concentrate more on the service rules of your present (new) employment, especially the conduct rules. See, how to get rid of the situation!
You may search the internet for Service Lawyers. May also see the following thread to get help, if necessary:
https://askwb.com/topic/state-administrative-tribunal-kolkata/October 16, 2012 at 6:01 pm #74818
as in this case there was no provision for forwarding the application through proper channel, as the mode of application was online. Now, for the coz of resignation, I would like to remind that I had obtained NOC twice for 2 jobs and as I have got both, I have cited the reason for dissociation as getting the offer from the employer whose appointment letter I received first. though I have received 2 more offers from the other 2 also, for one of which I obtained NOC and the other one I did not. now, as I want to take up the job of the last offer, for whom I did not obtain NOC, neither did I reveal that I was a working employee of another govt sector to the new employer with whom i intend to take up the job, nor did my dissociation pose a constraint to that job b’coz I already have tendered the resignation letter and obtained the release letter from my previous employer for joining the job whose offer letter I received first (however I don’t intend to join that). thus there is no question of enjoying 2 beneficiary position with 2 govt. establishments, as well as there is no question of not being duly released by my previous employer. hence, my question is far above that confusion. so, now that I have not informed my last
(3 rd) employer, but have been released by my previous employer much before I join the last i.e., the 3rd employment offer, could this be well a threat to my new service as I have kept the fact undeclared to the 3rd or the last employer, though I have been released by my previous employer. thank u once again for communicating so descriptively about the matter, I appreciate your valuable views and suggestion. keep guiding me. I need a philosopher.
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