Duration of instructional & teaching preparation hours.
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April 7, 2012 at 2:31 pm #67335unknownParticipant
Dear friends,
As per “THE RIGHT OF CHILDREN TO FREE AND COMPULSORY EDUCATION ACT, 2009”, THE SCHEDULE (see section 19&25) col. 4 . Minimum working hours per week for the teacher:- Forty-five teaching including preparation hours. I think 8 hours per day ( Mon. to Fri.) and 5 hours for Saturday. It may be 9 A.M. to 5 P.M. or 10 A.M. to 6 P.M. or not, we do not know till now. We do not know also what will be happen our morning shift school or morning session. Either 6 A.M. 2 P.M. or another. ( is it morning ???)
Col. No. 3. Minimum working days in a academic year :- 200 for class- I to 5 and minimum instructional hours in a academic year:- 800 for Primary School.
in case of Secondary School, 220 and 1000 respectively.
so that, as per order a primary student will stay at school only 800 / 200 = 4 hours per day which is less than present time. Now our students stay at school 5 hours. Remaining (8-4) = 4 hours per day our teachers will be engage for preparation of teaching.
Friends, we have no clear idea about it. Not yet seen any clarification what will be do our teachers remaining 4 hours per day without any student.
Please write, what is your opinion or suggestion or reaction or comments or others. At least write something about it. with regards.April 7, 2012 at 4:38 pm #71903unknownParticipantRe: Duration of instructional & teaching prparation hours.
Even we have been discussing about this issue a lot in recent days. And yes, as you say, the whole thing is indeed absurd. In case of high schools also, the number of teaching hours for a student per day comes roughly to about 4.5 hours, which is less than the five hours that are allotted today. And the worst thing is that, nobody has any clarifications on this. We, teachers, clearly have no idea, how many more absurdities and confusing scenarios, we will be faced with in the future. The central government is coming out everyday with a new suggestion regarding teaching, most of which are unthinkable.
I myself have attended workshops, dealing with ‘Open-Book Examinations’ (Examinations where the students would be allowed to write with their books open) and ‘Time-less examination’ (Examination where students would not be bound within time limits)!!!!!!!!!!!
It seems that we, the teachers are highly uneducated, when we see such proposals. And now, this whole issue about timing!!!!
I think all issues pertaining to education in our country will be solved to a large extent by the removal of Kapil Sibbal as the education minister. Thankfully the minister of education minister of Bengal has not joined the bandwagon, and from what I have heard, he has invited suggestions about this new timing and its possibility of being implemented.April 8, 2012 at 12:31 pm #71911unknownParticipanti.m fully agreed with shantanil.but friend i think our forum doesn’t and shouldn’t allow any posting against a minister(in normal time).we are helpless. i personally feel that if such school hours is implemented the teaching performance will be hampered.however i’m not of the same view regarding ‘open book’ and ‘timeless’ exam. but that needs different topic.
thanks…April 8, 2012 at 2:30 pm #71915unknownParticipanti.m fully agreed with shantanil.but friend i think our forum doesn’t and shouldn’t allow any posting against a minister(in normal time).we are helpless. i personally feel that if such school hours is implemented the teaching performance will be hampered.however i’m not of the same view regarding ‘open book’ and ‘timeless’ exam. but that needs different topic.
thanks…I quite agree to your remarks. My comments above are neither biased nor political. They are just an outpouring of emotions against a system which keeps on experimenting with education where teachers are always inevitably made the scapegoats. And the worst part of the scenario is that the government seldom chooses to discuss with the teachers themselves before implementing any new rule/experiment.
Consider the fact that I work in a H.S. institution in North Bengal which is located almost on the Bangladesh border. There is a road that leads straight from my school to my hometown Jalpaiguri which passes through some patches of ‘No Man’s Land’. The area is always patrolled by the BSF and the BDR. As night falls Section 144 is imposed in the area. In the winters it gets fully dark by 4.30 p.m. We find it extremely difficult to convince the BSF every day while returning home. Imagine what would happen if the school hours were to be extended to 5 p.m.?
Also consider the fact that 90% of schools in the rural areas cannot provide proper infrastructure for education. There is no electricity and no proper arrangement of drinking water. How can students stay in such institutions for a duration of 8 hours?
There is also an acute shortage of appropriate teaching staff in most schools of rural Bengal. Under the old system of SSC appointments, rural schools at least stood a chance of getting some teachers, but now the new rule of counselling has meant that most candidates choose schools in towns and cities, which is pretty natural and justified. We run an H.S. institution with only 15 teachers and six para teachers. What will be the workload on teachers if school hours were to be increased to 8 hours?
What all this will inevitably do is make teachers, professional teaching machines with no emotion whatsoever. I believe that the emotional bonding of teachers with students is the most vital aspect of teaching. I cannot imagine what will happen if this emotional quotient is taken out of the equation.
However, do you think any government will care to discuss the pros and cons of introducing a new system with the teachers before bringing out a G.O. declaring the start of a new system? I don’t think so. However there is no harm in hoping isn’t it?April 8, 2012 at 3:54 pm #71917unknownParticipantI think we are going off topic here. Sri Pal, the thread starter only wanted to know if any body can explain the logic of 4 hours instructional time and 4 hours of preparatory time. The G.O we are discussing does not indicate that the students have to be present in school for the whole 8 hours.
@shantnil: The new system of counselling by the SSC is a candidate friendly approach. It helps candidates to choose a school of his/her choice available at that point of time rather than thrusting a school on him/her. This also bring transparency in the system and reduce nepotism by the officials. Critisizing something for the sake of criticism is not good for the society in general.
The G.O in question was published by the State Govt. and not by Central Govt.,so why are we all gunning against Kapil Sibbal? Although ,presumably it toes the line of similar order of the central Govt., but our new Govt. could and had scope to modify it after discussion with all concerned. We have seen such things happening in several central schemes,those were objected to by our new C.M., and ultimately the Central Govt. had to stall them.April 8, 2012 at 4:16 pm #71918unknownParticipantfriends,
I am very happy for this healthy discussion.I also believe another our forum friends will take part. with regards.April 8, 2012 at 5:10 pm #71919unknownParticipant@shantnil: The new system of counselling by the SSC is a candidate friendly approach. It helps candidates to choose a school of his/her choice available at that point of time rather than thrusting a school on him/her. This also bring transparency in the system and reduce nepotism by the officials. Critisizing something for the sake of criticism is not good for the society in general.
Dear Kayshik
Did my reply seem. in any way, to criticise the policies of the SSC. If you read it carefully, I think you will realise that I had rather praised the policy of the SSC by calling it natural and justified. I myself have had the misfortune of being allotted a school far away from my home, which I chose, not to join. Those were the pre-counselling days. What I was actually trying to say was that, most schools in the rural areas have stopped getting adequate number of teachers since the start of the counselling system by the SSC and the MSC. Consider this fact : My madrasah has 3 advertised vacancies with the MSC for Mathematics and 2 for pure science. These posts have been sent to the MSC for appointing teachers for the last four years. Till date, we have received only one mathemitics teacher. This is because in science subjects it is usually found that the number of posts vacant supersede the number the qualified candidates. And so during counselling, no body chooses a madrasah that is in a very rural area.
Call it the result of the location of our madrasah or the counselling system or the lack of good candidates or blame it on the tough questions put by the SSC and the MSC, its we, who are the ultimate sufferers along with our students.
I would therefore request you to exercise some semblance of restraint, before criticising someone’s comment like this. I am sorry if I have hurt you in any way but your comments have indeed hurt me.
@Mods : If you feel this post to be inappropriate or exceeding the levels of sanctity of this forum, please feel free to delete it. I was actually just airing my own personal opinion, and I am sorry if I have hurt anybody’s sentiments.April 8, 2012 at 6:15 pm #71921unknownParticipantMy sincere apologies.
But please explain this more elaboratelyUnder the old system of SSC appointments, rural schools at least stood a chance of getting some teachers
for the sake of general readers. You yourself did not take a offer for a remote posting earlier, Which was a justified decision on your part. I am sorry if you already said the new counselling policy of SSC is natural and justified. I completely missed that bit in your earlier post.
Since we are going completely off topic here. Let us bury this.April 8, 2012 at 7:42 pm #71922unknownParticipantGlad to see the atmosphere neutralized by the sincere apology. I think, as we are all friends of this Open forum, we have the authority to express our feeling, knowledge, experience, emotion and what so ever. But this is my humble request to all try to avoid criticism and personal attack. To be honest, I must say Shantanil deserves some cheers and hugs for his quality posting and I also like Kaushik a lot. Please dont mind, I never felt that the discussion trending off topic, rather I am gonna be such now. Lol. So lets come to the point:-As far as I know the Act under discussion has came out from UNICEF and the Central and state Govts will share the financial responsibility of RTE. As we know the Government is of the people, to the people and for the people, We should not worry about the impact of the new experiment. Its persistence will also depend upon the people. Nothing can be done hampering the normal and peaceful life of the people and the political parties are well aware about that. So dont worry friends, just feel free to xpress yourself and keep our forum healthy. Best of luck.
April 9, 2012 at 4:01 pm #71927unknownParticipantDear friend som.
I am spellbound for your healthy remarks. you are my best friend because you can able to understand my utter less speech. that is why you have posted here before me. thanks a lot.waiting more another like this. -
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